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    Avatar of wingsfan19wingsfan19
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    So Donald Trump is going to be the next president of the United States. I guess I can go back to mocking disabled people, condoning sexual assault and embracing my natural white guy superiority. :roll:

    Seriously, I never said this during Vietnam or Watergate or the the Rodney King verdict or at any other time in my life but I am truly ashamed of my country right now. Disagree and flame me all you like, but look at at the kind of person you’re defending. :cry:

    Nothing to do but drink beer and look at naked Asian sirens.

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    Avatar of Dr. LeeDr. Lee
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    I’m sure this will be a hot topic, but may I remind everyone: the President of the USA may not need to mind his manners, but around here, we do!

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    Avatar of pftionpftion
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    I’m curious, but, do you want hillary to win? why?

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    Avatar of Dr. LeeDr. Lee
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    pftion,

    The question isn’t whether we want Hillary to win, but whether we want Trump to win. I personally wanted Bernie Sanders, but he wasn’t an option today sadly (a shame, as I’m sure he would have beaten Trump soundly). And out of Trump or Clinton, well, I’d take just about anyone over Trump!

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    Avatar of RomanticwarriorRomanticwarrior
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    The way I look at it is, don’t dwell on the negative… the election of a narcissistic, know-nothing boor and look at the positive :) , the people rejected a grossly corrupt, little accomplished phony feminist that a system was attempting to foist on us. Don’t cry for her. Except for missing the absolute power she’d been pursuing for nearly 40 years she can console herself with the $153 million she accumulated while in office from 2001 to 2015 while “working for the people.” Perhaps that last fact will cause thousands of young people to turn to “public service” in the hopes that they too may become one of the 1%. :lol: If Bernie endorsed her you know it must be good! And if lying were currency she’d be worth even more than that! No matter who won I felt we would all lose. :roll:

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    Avatar of Dr. LeeDr. Lee
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    Romanticwarrior,

    While she wasn’t my preferred candidate—and I do think Bernie was by far the best choice to go up against Trump—I do feel Hillary is very unfairly maligned, just as Julia Gillard was here in Australia. Conservatives have been smearing her for literally years, but they’ve never been able to pin anything on her despite overwhelming scrutiny. People tend to assume that where there’s smoke there’s fire—especially when there’s so much of it—but maybe it’s really just a smokescreen. She’s also held up to a lot of crap with more resilience than most men would have (once again, like Gillard).

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    Dr. Lee,

    Hopefully without sounding too patronizing, the Doc’s take on the American presidential election is very astute for someone from another country — certainly more so than my take on Aussie politics would be.

    I do disagree about Bernie’s chances though. Although he would have scored well with those whose voting for Trump was an “FU” against the elite (by voting for a man with a $200 million home!?), Bernie is a self-described socialist. This, in a country where a moderate is branded as a raging liberal. a liberal is branded as a raging socialist, and a socialist has no chance of winning (peaked at 16% in 1924, but less than 1$ since 1928).

    Side note: I have my John Lennon t-shirt on permanent rotation so that no one mistakes this middle-aged white man for a Trump supporter.

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    Also, no one ever answered my question about which city in Australia is best for finding employment. Although we aren’t really going to move and will stay here and fight/monitor the situation. In the meantime, I am following “Bluto” Blutarsky’s advice to drink heavily. Right now, a nice cappuccino oatmeal stout. Cheers mates! (working on my Australian in case I change my mind).

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    Avatar of Dr. LeeDr. Lee
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    wingsfan19,

    What you say about Bernie sounds like what a lot of people were saying about Trump (too extreme to win any US election). The thing is, this wasn’t a conventional election: people were desperate for real change; they wanted an outsider. Hillary’s insider status was to her detriment in this election, even though her immense experience and moderate, steady-as-she-goes politics would normally be an advantage. I think Bernie would have trumped Trump as a real man of the people and a big change from business as usual (being a self-described socialist almost adds to this).

    This article explains it succinctly:

    http://usuncut.com/politics/shortest-explanation-why-trump-won/

    Here’s a good statistical analysis:

    http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-would-have-crushed-trump/

    And this astonishingly prescient article explains it in great detail:

    http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency

    Dr. Lee
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    Avatar of Dr. LeeDr. Lee
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    wingsfan19 wrote:
    Also, no one ever answered my question about which city in Australia is best for finding employment.

    Sydney (or perhaps Melbourne) is the obvious choice, but accommodation is relatively difficult and expensive.

    Dr. Lee
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